Comments for Words -- Jonathan Cheyer http://blog.cheyer.biz It is better to remain silent and be thought a fool than to open one's mouth and remove all doubt — Lincoln, Twain, et al. Sun, 06 Jul 2008 03:53:59 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.3.1 Comment on Solid is at OSCON by Jeff Ballinger http://blog.cheyer.biz/2007/07/24/solid-is-at-oscon/#comment-3749 Jeff Ballinger Fri, 20 Jun 2008 15:26:56 +0000 http://blog.cheyer.biz/2007/07/24/solid-is-at-oscon/#comment-3749 You're right, it is complicated. BrainyQuotes has an entry below that indicates Samuel Johnson may have been the first: Mouth Quotations It is better to remain silent and be thought a fool than to open one's mouth and remove all doubt. Abraham Lincoln It is better to keep your mouth closed and let people think you are a fool than to open it and remove all doubt. Mark Twain A wise and frugal government, which shall leave men free to regulate their own pursuits of industry and improvement, and shall not take from the mouth of labor and bread it has earned - this is the sum of good government. Thomas Jefferson Some men are like ballads, that are in everyone's mouth a little while. Francois de La Rochefoucauld It is better to remain silent and be thought a fool, than open one's mouth and remove all doubt. Samuel Johnson http://www.brainyquote.com/quotes/quotes/s/samueljohn386456.html You’re right, it is complicated. BrainyQuotes has an entry below that indicates Samuel Johnson may have been the first:

Mouth Quotations

It is better to remain silent and be thought a fool than to open one’s mouth and remove all doubt.
Abraham Lincoln

It is better to keep your mouth closed and let people think you are a fool than to open it and remove all doubt.
Mark Twain

A wise and frugal government, which shall leave men free to regulate their own pursuits of industry and improvement, and shall not take from the mouth of labor and bread it has earned - this is the sum of good government.
Thomas Jefferson

Some men are like ballads, that are in everyone’s mouth a little while.
Francois de La Rochefoucauld

It is better to remain silent and be thought a fool, than open one’s mouth and remove all doubt.
Samuel Johnson http://www.brainyquote.com/quotes/quotes/s/samueljohn386456.html

]]> Comment on Managing Bugzilla Spam by Jonathan http://blog.cheyer.biz/2007/08/03/managing-bugzilla-spam/#comment-3517 Jonathan Wed, 05 Mar 2008 17:47:32 +0000 http://blog.cheyer.biz/2007/08/03/managing-bugzilla-spam/#comment-3517 zeeshan: I am not a bugzilla developer myself, so I'm not the right person to ask. I'd suggest you start by looking in the following places: * http://wiki.mozilla.org/Bugzilla:FAQ * http://www.bugzilla.org/docs/tip/html/ * http://www.bugzilla.org/docs/developer.html You also might try posting a question on the Mozilla developers list at developers@bugzilla.org. zeeshan: I am not a bugzilla developer myself, so I’m not the right person to ask. I’d suggest you start by looking in the following places:

* http://wiki.mozilla.org/Bugzilla:FAQ
* http://www.bugzilla.org/docs/tip/html/
* http://www.bugzilla.org/docs/developer.html

You also might try posting a question on the Mozilla developers list at developers@bugzilla.org.

]]> Comment on Managing Bugzilla Spam by zeeshan http://blog.cheyer.biz/2007/08/03/managing-bugzilla-spam/#comment-3516 zeeshan Wed, 05 Mar 2008 16:42:55 +0000 http://blog.cheyer.biz/2007/08/03/managing-bugzilla-spam/#comment-3516 Hello, I want a little info about the Bugzilla framework. Kindly any one have such info email it to me. i am basically doing my Thesis thanks in advance for your corporation Hello,
I want a little info about the Bugzilla framework. Kindly any one have such info email it to me. i am basically doing my Thesis

thanks in advance for your corporation

]]> Comment on Managing Bugzilla Spam by Jonathan http://blog.cheyer.biz/2007/08/03/managing-bugzilla-spam/#comment-3494 Jonathan Tue, 19 Feb 2008 15:36:02 +0000 http://blog.cheyer.biz/2007/08/03/managing-bugzilla-spam/#comment-3494 DaveK: I have the same concern as you with regards to the "Move to dummy" trick. In my feature request to the bugzilla team, I <a href="https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=380489#c4" rel="nofollow">specify</a> that spammers should not get any email when their spam is removed. DaveK: I have the same concern as you with regards to the “Move to dummy” trick. In my feature request to the bugzilla team, I specify that spammers should not get any email when their spam is removed.

]]> Comment on Managing Bugzilla Spam by DaveK http://blog.cheyer.biz/2007/08/03/managing-bugzilla-spam/#comment-3491 DaveK Mon, 18 Feb 2008 20:00:46 +0000 http://blog.cheyer.biz/2007/08/03/managing-bugzilla-spam/#comment-3491 I'm also looking into deleting bugzilla spam. The thing that worries me about the "Move to dummy product / delete product" trick is that I don't want to risk any email getting sent to the spammer's address that might have my email address in it. I’m also looking into deleting bugzilla spam.

The thing that worries me about the “Move to dummy product / delete product” trick is that I don’t want to risk any email getting sent to the spammer’s address that might have my email address in it.

]]> Comment on Changes, changes by Naomi Carmona http://blog.cheyer.biz/2007/11/25/changes-changes/#comment-3403 Naomi Carmona Thu, 13 Dec 2007 01:42:41 +0000 http://blog.cheyer.biz/2007/11/25/changes-changes/#comment-3403 Congratulations!!! Your little boy is absolutely precious -- Best to the entire family, Naomi Congratulations!!! Your little boy is absolutely precious –

Best to the entire family,

Naomi

]]> Comment on Managing Bugzilla Spam by David http://blog.cheyer.biz/2007/08/03/managing-bugzilla-spam/#comment-2228 David Tue, 21 Aug 2007 10:20:34 +0000 http://blog.cheyer.biz/2007/08/03/managing-bugzilla-spam/#comment-2228 I got bugzilla spammed by 83.167.120.x tonight. My solution was to do some sql updates, changing the content of the attachments (HTML pages) to contain meta refresh redirects to a christian, anti-masturbation website... I got bugzilla spammed by 83.167.120.x tonight.
My solution was to do some sql updates, changing the content of the attachments (HTML pages) to contain meta refresh redirects to a christian, anti-masturbation website…

]]> Comment on The Importance of Being Earnest by lucmars http://blog.cheyer.biz/2007/08/09/the-importance-of-being-earnest/#comment-2212 lucmars Wed, 15 Aug 2007 21:14:48 +0000 http://blog.cheyer.biz/2007/08/09/the-importance-of-being-earnest/#comment-2212 @Sheeri "*not everyone understands open source*" Do you mean to fool some entrepeneurs ? Unfortunately, most of the people understand open source and free software as nothing to pay at all. @Sheeri
“*not everyone understands open source*”
Do you mean to fool some entrepeneurs ? Unfortunately, most of the people understand open source and free software as nothing to pay at all.

]]> Comment on The Importance of Being Earnest by Sheeri http://blog.cheyer.biz/2007/08/09/the-importance-of-being-earnest/#comment-2206 Sheeri Tue, 14 Aug 2007 19:02:33 +0000 http://blog.cheyer.biz/2007/08/09/the-importance-of-being-earnest/#comment-2206 <I>But customers aren’t paying for bits. The bits are Free Software and infinitely re-distributable, so there isn’t any money to be made by trying to make bits appear part of the sale.</I> Sure there is. Plenty of business owners want to use software that has a monetary component to it, because their feeling is that if it's free it's not worth it. That's changing, but slowly, and not completely. After all, if *you* are a business owner, and you have great free software, it doesn't make business sense to give it away for free. (yes, I know the arguments. But try telling that to entrepeneurs, who see open source as akin to renting a building for free and having the rentors pay for all the utilities and repairs and maintenance on the building. It just doesn't make business sense to them) Anyway, there is a point in charging for the bits, but not to folks who understand open source. What we have to realize is that *not everyone understands open source*. But customers aren’t paying for bits. The bits are Free Software and infinitely re-distributable, so there isn’t any money to be made by trying to make bits appear part of the sale.

Sure there is. Plenty of business owners want to use software that has a monetary component to it, because their feeling is that if it’s free it’s not worth it. That’s changing, but slowly, and not completely. After all, if *you* are a business owner, and you have great free software, it doesn’t make business sense to give it away for free.

(yes, I know the arguments. But try telling that to entrepeneurs, who see open source as akin to renting a building for free and having the rentors pay for all the utilities and repairs and maintenance on the building. It just doesn’t make business sense to them)

Anyway, there is a point in charging for the bits, but not to folks who understand open source. What we have to realize is that *not everyone understands open source*.

]]> Comment on Managing Bugzilla Spam by Jonathan http://blog.cheyer.biz/2007/08/03/managing-bugzilla-spam/#comment-2189 Jonathan Mon, 06 Aug 2007 21:35:07 +0000 http://blog.cheyer.biz/2007/08/03/managing-bugzilla-spam/#comment-2189 LpSolit: thanks for the comment. I understand that in the past, Bugzilla developers had good reasons for making it non-trivial to delete a bug. I agree with you that users should mark invalid bugs as INVALID instead of deleting them. I have no complaint with the goal to help users avoid doing the wrong thing. However, Bugzilla administrators do need an easy way to clean up spam. Your suggestion to move spam to a Trash product is workable, but administrators don't want to leave pornography and spam sitting on their servers even if viewing the bugs can be completely restricted to a "no one" group. I think some way to "delete every bug, comment, and attachment this user ever made" would <a href="https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=380489#c5" rel="nofollow">help</a> a lot. LpSolit: thanks for the comment. I understand that in the past, Bugzilla developers had good reasons for making it non-trivial to delete a bug. I agree with you that users should mark invalid bugs as INVALID instead of deleting them. I have no complaint with the goal to help users avoid doing the wrong thing.

However, Bugzilla administrators do need an easy way to clean up spam. Your suggestion to move spam to a Trash product is workable, but administrators don’t want to leave pornography and spam sitting on their servers even if viewing the bugs can be completely restricted to a “no one” group. I think some way to “delete every bug, comment, and attachment this user ever made” would help a lot.

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